The link to the Marc Steiner show in a previous post did not work for several people.
"We commemorate the upcoming 4th of July weekend with a discussion on what American Independence Day means to different people in this country. You will hear a passage from Frederick Douglass’ “The Meaning of July Fourth for the Negro” interpreted by actor, narrator, writer, and social commentator Keith Snipes, and then Keith is joined on the panel by: Dr. Alan Gilbert, John Evans Professor in the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver and author of Black Patriots and Loyalists; and A. Adar Ayira, project manager of the More in the Middle Campaign for Associated Black Charities and facilitator and analyst at Baltimore Racial Justice Action, a program of Fusion Partnerships."
Our discussion reached considerable agreement about telling the truth in history - that as Douglass says, slavery is no thing to celebrate and no part of freedom, and that genocide toward indigenous people has also been part of the holiday. The Bill of Rights is important if it is extended to each person (far from the initial situation). It is only through struggle from below, often led by blacks and indigenous people (the most oppressed), which gives rise to this slow realization.
And American patriotism - as the Obama administration and the Senate's barbarous support for the Israeli government's calculated slaughter in Gaza indicates - is often retrograde, and in such cases, we all need to dissent from it. See here.
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